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Dear All,
Would you be kind enough to share your workflow in terms of scoring to video - the technical aspect - import - settings - markers - sync to video - timeline??
I'm having trouble understanding how I can sync musical parts to video unless and until I'm in
bars / measures but my cue marker hits don't start on the start of any bar or beat as such.
I wanted to know how you guys use studio one for video projects.
Please help.
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I have composed music for film and TV and I have also done this well in Studio One.
1 Import the video. It will usually be at a lower res than the final. Hence a smaller file to manage.
2 I aim for bar 3 (beat 1) to be the point where the video clip actually starts. Now the video might start straight in but then again there might be some stuff before the first frame of interest.
Either way you have to fiddle with the offset settings in order to get the video to be where you want it to be at bar 2 beat 1.
You need to be in both Bars/beats but also have the Time showing on the other display.
Also does the video have burned in time code on the picture.
3 Once that is working (and it will take a little fiddling) YOU need to define the tempo of the music at that point. (I often leave the first two bars at 120 BPM as well)
4 You can then look at your vision hit points and you will see where they fall in relation to your chosen tempo and grid. Suppose a hit point falls just after beat 2 of a bar. You then need to insert tempo change before this hit point to make the hit point land right on beat 2. (you could get it to hit on beat 1 but the tempo may have to change too much) The idea is to insert a series of light tempo changes so the hit points all land on beats nicely. (any beats)
(there are tricks involved), eg suppose a hit point lands on beat 2 of a bar after you have done a tempo change. But you really want it to land on beat 1. If you are in 4/4 say then you can insert a 3/4 bar some where earlier in the music where it would not be noticed and then your next hit point will be on beat 1 of a 4/4 bar.
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I'd second this approach. I've previously worked in Pro Tools and Digital Performer and while I still miss some of the specialised scoring features they offer (particularly DP) I am nonetheless able to work effectively in S1.
Certainly I feel that what I gain in reliability, performance and simplicity makes up for the reduced feature set.
Being able to load multiple instances of Kontakt without needing VEP and fleet of machines is important for the smaller scale projects I work on. Admittedly my template is probably closer to what most film score composers would view as a sketch template with about 160 tracks. I'm aware that some composers have 600+!
Mostly I find the block granularity offered by the tempo track to be the biggest annoyance - for timing things to make a specific Hit Point a fine tempo change (pencil line like the CC midi automation) is much easier than the graduated option available in S1 at the moment - at least for a lazy composer like me:-)
I'm also hopeful that some of the future changes to S1 will beef up the scoring/midi support a little. Midi inserts/effects would be a grand start (please, please if you're watching Presonus dudes).
Until then I'm happy to make do. S1 has grown considerably the last few years and I'm confident that it will continue to evolve.
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I'm interested in this as well. I'm a long time Logic user, and when I score to film I've always created projects for each cue. Alternatives has made this easier, but I still mostly use that for revisions of the various cues.
I'm learning DP now, with its array of powerful features for working to picture. The Chunks feature makes it possible to (theoretically) do an entire reel or even full length feature in one project. Because each Chunk is given a start time independent of the others, you don't have to worry about other cues sliding around, losing their picture place when you change tempos, lengthen, shorten etc.
I've been getting into S1 and really love it for writing. I've seen some info on using the Scratch Pad and Arranger Track for working to picture but I'm wondering how you deal with the issue of cues falling out of sync when an earlier cue is changed? Since they are all on a common timeline, it seems like it would be problematic?
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I think you need to have separate files for the various cues to avoid that problem.
Chunks are indeed powerful, but I have read that some folks avoid them because using them as you describe 'puts all your eggs in one basket'. A corrupted file can result in the loss of ALL your cues for a film.
Admittedly, this is probably rare - and with proper project backups you can protect yourself from the worst of it. But you know how it goes: There's never a good time for that type of thing to happen.
I have another thread going on something very similar. If I could ask you to take a look...I'm trying to work through using S1 for video and had a few specific questions. Any thoughts are appreciated.
viewtopic.php?f=213&t=14761
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I had seen that thread actually, should have posted there. thanks.
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